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Два диаметрально противоположных мнения о встрече Путина и Обамы

Авторы: Виктор Шевчук и Гарри Каспаров
Октябрь 2015
Опубликовано 2015-10-03 16:00


Путин покинул США похоже навсегда

 Автор: Виктор Шевчук

Путин покинул США похоже навсегда

Главным итогом визита Путина в США стало то, что “кремлевский властелин” больше никогда не попадет на территорию Северной Америки. Причина простая – неадекватность и агрессивность.

Попытка играть в наперстки на американском поле не просто провалилась, а стала возможно фатальной в карьере президента-чекиста. Это касается и вопросов по Сирии, но в первую очередь по Украине. Обама во время встречи недвусмысленно дал понять, что времени есть только две недели, чтобы уйти из Украины и отменить “липовые выборы” в ДНР/ЛНР, после чего последуют санкции следующего уровня.

По словам источника, также поднимался и вопрос вступления Украины в НАТО, а также ее вооружения современным летальным оружием и подготовки американскими и британскими инструкторами. 

Путину дали четко понять, что планы США в этом вопросе неизменны – американцы поддержат стремление Украины во вступлении НАТО, если это будет волей народа. А подготовка украинской армии по стандартам НАТО будет не только продолжаться, но и наростать.

Также Путина настоятельно попросили не проводить никаких наземных операций в Сирии, поскольку в таком случае ему устроят “двойной Афганистан”, как выразился источник в администрации. По-сути, американцы заявили, что дни Асада сочтены и не имеет смысла его поддерживать, поскольку уже в ближайшее время не смотря на поддержку России, США и их союзники приложат все усилия, чтобы сменить режим в Сирии.

Отдельно разговор касался очень “щекотливой” темы. Путин попросил в личной беседе разблокировать некоторые банковские счета, которые являются “счетами благотворительными”. 

На это он получил ответ, что администрация располагает другой информацией по этому поводу.

Дальнейшее развитие событий предсказать сложно, поскольку Путина загнали в угол. Встреча была полным фиаско для российской стороны, поскольку Обама использовал ультимативную форму общения, выдвигая в большей степени не предложения а требования. Как сообщил источник, 

Путину показали экономические геополитические расчеты, согласно которым падение его режима произойдет между 2017 и 2018 годом и закончится новым распадом территории как в постсоветское время.



Putin Takes a Victory Lap While  Obama Watches

By Garry Kasparov in the Wall Street Journal

More chaos in Syria suits the Russian president just fine. Higher oil 
prices will please Moscow and Tehran.

With the Middle East in chaos and a belligerent Russian regime stoking the turmoil, the dueling speeches at the United Nations on Monday by presidents Barack Obama and 
Vladimir Putin might have offered new insight. What the world saw instead was entirely 

Mr. Obama has already decided to continue his policy of disengagement from the Middle 
East, and his platitudes about cooperation and the rule of law rang hollow in the U.N.’s 
General Assembly hall. Of the conflict in Syria, he said, “we must recognize that there 
cannot be, after so much bloodshed, so much carnage, a return to the prewar status quo.” 
But every listener was aware that Mr. Obama had no intention of backing his words with 

Mr. Putin, speaking about an hour later in the same room, included his usual NATO-bashing and obvious lies. “We think it is an enormous mistake,” Mr. Putin said, “to refuse 
to cooperate with the Syrian government and its armed forces, who are valiantly fighting 
terrorism face to face.” He spoke of national sovereignty—which is very important to Mr. 
Putin, unless it’s the sovereignty of Georgia, Ukraine or another place where he wishes to 

In other words, Mr. Obama’s speech was routine because he knows he will not act. 
Mr. Putin’s speech was routine because he knows he will act anyway.
The content of the speeches was irrelevant to Mr. Putin before he even opened his 
mouth. He made his first U.N. address in 10 years because looking like a big man on the 
international stage is the only ploy he has left to justify his rule in Russia. His devil’s 
bargain with the Russian people a decade ago was to provide prosperity in exchange for 
their giving up their rights and democracy. Now we have none of the above. Mr. Putin’s 
only remaining gambit is to claim that he is defending Russian greatness while 
surrounded by enemies (whom that he is an expert at creating). With his offensive in 
Ukraine sputtering along, new fronts were needed. He has found them in Syria and at the 

In this light, the much-hyped private meeting between Messrs. Obama and Putin was the 
biggest possible prize. The only statement to come out of the meeting was that the U.S. 
and Russia would consider working together against Islamic State, also known as ISIS. 
Not that Mr. Putin cares about cooperation, as long as his goal of preserving Bashar 
Assad’s murderous dictatorship in Syria isn’t interfered with.
Yet the images of the two leaders together are being splashed across the Russian media 
as a huge triumph for Mr. Putin. The narrative, which began circulating as soon as the 
meeting was announced, is that not only did the valiant Mr. Putin confront and condemn 
the weak Mr. Obama and the evil United States, he did so in New York City, the belly of 
the beast itself. As soon as the first pictures were taken, the meeting became a great 
success for Mr. Putin, and another self-inflicted defeat for American foreign policy—and 
for stability and democracy in the Middle East.

No matter how well-intentioned and popular the U.S. exit from Iraq was, or how well the 
White House spun its concessions to Mr. Assad in 2013, the results clearly have been 
disastrous. A look at a map of Iraq and Syria shows that the rise of ISIS was a logical 
response to American abandonment of the region’s Sunnis. A group like ISIS cannot 
thrive without support from locals, in this case Sunnis who see no other way to defend 
against the Shiite forces of Iran and Syria that are slaughtering them by the hundreds of 

In world affairs, as in chess, you have to play the position that’s on the board when you 
sit down. Criticizing George W. Bush for starting the Iraq war in 2003 does not change 
the fact that in 2008 there was no mass refugee crisis or massive ISIS army on the 
march. Support for al Qaeda had been undercut by negotiations with Sunni groups in 
Anbar province, a game-changing policy that was as responsible for reduced violence as 
the surge of new American forces. 

The American exit and Mr. Obama’s refusal to deter Mr. Assad ended any possibility of 
security. The people had to fight, flee or die, and they are doing all three in horrific 
numbers. It’s important to remember that the waves of refugees reaching Europe are not 
running from ISIS. They are fleeing Mr. Assad—who counts on active support from Iran 
and now Russia.

No deal is going to change that. Iran and Russia have their own agendas in the region, 
and peace is not on either of them. Iran is the world’s leading state supporter of 
terrorism. Mr. Putin’s method of fighting the war on terror in Chechnya was carpet 
bombing. When that didn’t succeed, he bought off the region’s most brutal warlord, 
Ramzan Kadyrov. 

The continued slaughter of Sunnis in the region will draw in more support from the 
Saudis and more foreign fighters from Pakistan, Afghanistan and Russia. The situation 
will metastasize like a cancer, which suits Mr. Putin fine. War and chaos create more 
enemies and more opportunities for him to look like a tough guy on Russian state TV. 
Iran’s regime needs conflict for similar reasons, which is why it can never give up “Death 
to America.” A growing war will also drive up the price of oil, a benefit that isn’t lost on 
Tehran or Moscow.

These consequences may be acceptable to Mr. Obama, but he cannot pretend to be 
ignorant of his role in creating them. I, too, would like to live in the world of diplomacy 
and law that Mr. Obama seems to believe we inhabit. But unfortunately we do not. Power 
and action still matter, and in places like Syria and Iraq you cannot have power without 

Mr. Putin didn’t say anything new at the U.N., because he didn’t need to. He knows that 
he has concrete assets that are more effective than mere words. He has tanks in Ukraine, 
jet fighters in Syria, and Barack Obama in the White House.
Mr. Kasparov, chairman of the New York-based Human Rights Foundation, is the 
author of “Winter Is Coming: Why Vladimir Putin and the Enemies of the Free World 
Must Be Stopped,” out next month from Public Affairs.

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